March 7, 2023

Ep. 57 Destigmatizing Neurodiversity in the Workplace feat. Jamie Martin and Heather Wagner

Ep. 57 Destigmatizing Neurodiversity in the Workplace feat. Jamie Martin and Heather Wagner

Topics: neurodiversity and what it looks like; neurodiversity pioneer Judy Singer; the neurodiversity movement; ADHD; and a lot more!

Today I’m giving the microphones to Jamie Martin and Heather Lynn Wagner who will help destigmatize Neurodiversity in the Workplace.

I really want to thank Jamie for bringing Heather on the show… and for that matter, all the other guests she’s brought on other episodes as well!

Topics covered in this episode

Neurodiversity or neurodivergent individuals.

The need for more support in the workplace for these learning differences.

Neurodiversity and what it looks like.

Neurodiversity Pioneer Judy Singer.

Neurodiversity as a concept. The Neurodiversity movement.

Nothing about us, without us:

Other learning differences.

A D H D coaching.

The impact on executive function.

Learning differences markers.

Impulse control.

Neurodiversity in the Workplace.


Neurodivergent communication styles: 

Disclose and self-disclose. Invisible disabilities. Social disability.

The inclusion model.

Unconscious bias.

Brene Brown - What’s Happening at Work, Part 1 of 2 with Adam Grant & Simon Sinek. 

What does collaboration truly look like? There may be a clue here “The High Achieving Collaborator with Lisa, Audrey, and Patty”

The unspoken social curriculum.

Body doubling. 

And more.

Contact Jamie and Heather

Jamie Martin

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Heather Lynn Wagner


Podcast “The Neurodivergent Leader Podcast” 

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Jamie Martin

Life and Leadership Coach

I’ve spent 17 years in technology with most of it in a state of denial, overwhelm and exhaustion. I knew this wasn’t the life I wanted. I loved the idea of building things for people. I always have. The engineer in me wanted to use products to make people’s lives better. However, I found myself at companies like DoubleClick, Google, DialogTech. All focused on advertising and helping marketers, which wasn’t quite hitting my desire to make the lives of people better.

I found myself as the VP of Product Management and failing to get pregnant. I was more miserable and overwhelmed than I had ever been before, even when my health was at its worst in my 20s. I knew something had to change. I knew it was time to follow my heart and go after my dream of being a life and leadership coach.

During one of the women groups at my company, the speaker we brought in kept mentioning her coach. I took it as a sign that I needed to make the step to get into coaching.

And so, I started my journey to becoming a life and leadership coach and changing my life in the process. People now comment on how much more relaxed I am and happy I look. I’ve found things that I had lost over the years. A renewed connection to the universe and spirit. A renewed appreciation and love of my body. And so much more!

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Heather Lynn Wagner

Founder/Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach/Senior HR consultant/Neurodiversity Advocate/DEIB Trainer/Mom

Heather Lynn Wagner is a Trauma-Informed Leadership Coach, Senior HR consultant, Neurodiversity Advocate, and DEIB Trainer.

She is the founder of Heather Lynn + Co., a boutique coaching and consulting agency dedicated to serving entrepreneurs, high-performing leaders, and social impact organizations who want to maximize their talent and development programs and implement strategic HR initiatives. Heather Lynn + Co. offers executive leadership coaching, business coaching, talent + culture development programs, workshops, and trauma-informed training for coaches, leaders, and people managers.

Heather graduated from an ICF accredited coach training company, Accomplishment Coaching, and then went on to serve for two years as a Mentor Coach, training new coaches in their NYC and Washington DC programs.

A humanist at heart, Heather believes the best way to maximize impact is to cultivate the leadership skills of your most valuable asset- your people. She has been designing and facilitating transformational experiences for over 25 years. Her passion is helping people live fully and authentically expressed in their lives.